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				<title>David Ing posted an update in the group Systemicists: Credibility gap in "No Need to Panic About Global Warning" [&#8230;]</title>
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					<p><a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/daviding/" title="David Ing" rel="nofollow">David Ing</a> posted an update in the group <a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/groups/systemicists/" rel="nofollow">Systemicists</a> Credibility gap in "No Need to Panic About Global Warning" article in WSJ signed by 16 scientists? Opinion piece at <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204301404577171531838421366.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204301404577171531838421366.html</a> </p>
<p>Repudiation about sources by D.R. Tucker "Scared of Science" at <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/d-r-tucker/wall-street-journal-global-warming_b_1240195.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/d-r-tucker/wall-street-journal-global-warming_b_1240195.html</a> , citing Peter Gleick &#124; "Remarkable Editorial Bias on Climate Science at the Wall Street Journal" &#124; Jan. 27, 2012 &#124; Forbes at <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/petergleick/2012/01/27/remarkable-editorial-bias-on-climate-science-at-the-wall-street-journal/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/sites/petergleick/2012/01/27/remarkable-editorial-bias-on-climate-science-at-the-wall-street-journal/</a></p>

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				<title>David Ing posted an update in the group Systemicists: At INCOSE IW, Janet Singer (as ISSS VP Research and Pubs) [&#8230;]</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:04:18 +0000</pubDate>

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					<p><a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/daviding/" title="David Ing" rel="nofollow">David Ing</a> posted an update in the group <a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/groups/systemicists/" rel="nofollow">Systemicists</a> At INCOSE IW, Janet Singer (as ISSS VP Research and Pubs) was tasked to lead a subcommittee on describing Systems Thinking, Systems Science and Systems Approach for the INCOSE Systems Engineering Book of Knowledge.  Other projects (e.g. ontology) may also be involved.  </p>
<p>See workshop at <a href="https://sites.google.com/site/syssciwg/meetings/workshop-2012-january" rel="nofollow">https://sites.google.com/site/syssciwg/meetings/workshop-2012-january</a> .  If you're interested in contributing, speak up to Janet or myself!</p>

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				<title>David Ing posted an update in the group Systemicists: What should dialogue designers know about inquiring systems? [&#8230;]</title>
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					<p><a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/daviding/" title="David Ing" rel="nofollow">David Ing</a> posted an update in the group <a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/groups/systemicists/" rel="nofollow">Systemicists</a> What should dialogue designers know about inquiring systems? Workshop recap at <a href="http://bit.ly/AeetP6" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/AeetP6</a>, slides <a href="http://bit.ly/A2him0" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/A2him0</a> . Dialogue with Design session in Toronto</p>

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				<title>David Ing posted an update in the group Systemicists: Systems biology, seeing properties in organisms not in the [&#8230;]</title>
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					<p><a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/daviding/" title="David Ing" rel="nofollow">David Ing</a> posted an update in the group <a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/groups/systemicists/" rel="nofollow">Systemicists</a> Systems biology, seeing properties in organisms not in the parts, arose from advances in computing in larger datasets, says David Weinberger.  </p>
<p>&#062; In 2002, when Hiroaki Kitano wrote a cover story on systems biology for Science magazine — a formal recognition of the growing importance of this young field — he said: “The major reason it is gaining renewed interest today is that progress in molecular biology … enables us to collect comprehensive datasets on system performance and gain information on the underlying molecules.” Of course, the only reason we’re able to collect comprehensive datasets is that computers have gotten so big and powerful. Systems biology simply was not possible in the Age of Books.  </p>
<p>See highlights of article at <a href="http://ingbrief.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/systems-biology-based-on-computer-based-datasets-to-know-but-not-understand-david-weinberger-the-atlantic/" rel="nofollow">http://ingbrief.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/systems-biology-based-on-computer-based-datasets-to-know-but-not-understand-david-weinberger-the-atlantic/</a> .</p>
<p>Edited excerpt as “To Know, but Not Understand” &#124; David Weinberger &#124; Jan. 3, 2012 &#124; The Atlantic at   <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/01/to-know-but-not-understand-david-weinberger-on-science-and-big-data/250820/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/01/to-know-but-not-understand-david-weinberger-on-science-and-big-data/250820/</a>.</p>

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				<title>David Ing posted a new activity comment</title>
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					<p><a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/daviding/" title="David Ing" rel="nofollow">David Ing</a> posted a new activity comment <a href='http://syscoi.com/commons/members/roman/' rel="nofollow">@roman</a> The animated graphics in <a href="http://www.dip.ee/systems/" rel="nofollow">How to create a new tool<br />
for the Creative Sustainability by using systems thinking?</a> represents an ambitious crossing of domains.  </p>
<p>I looked at your cited <a href="10.1016/S0048-7333(02)00062-8" rel="nofollow">Geels (2001)</a> article, and noticed the foundations in <a href="http://books.google.ca/books?id=6Kx7s_HXxrkC" rel="nofollow">Nelson &#038; Winter's <em>Evolutionary Theory of Economic Change</em></a>, dating back to 1982.  The <a href="http://books.google.ca/books?id=DHcjtSM5TogC" rel="nofollow">Gunderson and Holling <em>Panarchy</em></a> work was published in 2002, so there's been a lot a research developed over two decades.  </p>
<p>You're on the right path of thinking.  Bringing the economists up to speed with the thinking of ecologists over two decades would require a large amount of cross-disciplinary patience, that is well beyond a reasonable scope for this master's course.</p>

					
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						<a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/roman/" title="Roman Lihhavtshuk" rel="nofollow">Roman Lihhavtshuk</a> posted an update in the group <a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/groups/systemicists/" rel="nofollow">Systemicists</a> My essay and interactive tool about the way to connect dots between different theories by using systems thinking <a href="http://www.dip.ee/systems/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dip.ee/systems/</a>
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					<p><a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/daviding/" title="David Ing" rel="nofollow">David Ing</a> posted a new activity comment <a href='http://syscoi.com/commons/members/timo/' rel="nofollow">@timo</a> In your <a href="http://timotiikeri.wordpress.com/2011/12/31/architecture-sustainability-and-systems-thinking/" rel="nofollow">Architecture, Sustainability and Systems Thinking</a>essay, you've taken an idealist approach, i.e. you start from a proscribed future and approach the present with a critical eye.  </p>
<p>An alternative approach is to start from current practices, and look to see how they might evolve.  Going from potential future to current state, and from current state to potential futures are both philosophical stances that can and should be embraced in a systems approach.  </p>
<p>Systems are human constructs.  Systems are bounded (albeit open) domains within the larger definition of the world.  We change the world by working within systems over which we have control ... and hope that we might influence other systems who are interested in like-minded change.  </p>
<p>I find labelling potential participants who I might engage in a dialogue as "stupid" a deterrent to joint future engagement.  My attitude (primarily in work situations) presumes that people are smart (i.e. even if I don't agree with their actions, they're smart enough to hold onto positions and not get fired!)  This doesn't mean that the actions of a group of smart people won't add up to a collective dysfunctional system.  Creating a better joint future presents the issue of designing new directions and boundaries that will change behaviours at individual levels, towards collective improvement.</p>

					
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				<title>David Ing posted an update in the group Systemicists: The influences between culture and education in a society [&#8230;]</title>
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					<p><a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/daviding/" title="David Ing" rel="nofollow">David Ing</a> posted an update in the group <a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/groups/systemicists/" rel="nofollow">Systemicists</a> The influences between culture and education in a society are circular.  "Decades ago, when the Finnish school system was badly in need of reform, the goal of the program that Finland instituted, resulting in so much success today, was never excellence. It was equity" says Pasi Sahlberg, director of the Finnish Ministry of Education's Center for International Mobility.  </p>
<p>"What Americans Keep Ignoring About Finland's School Success" &#124; Anu Partanen &#124; Dec. 29, 2011 &#124; The Atlantic at <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/12/what-americans-keep-ignoring-about-finlands-school-success/250564/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/12/what-americans-keep-ignoring-about-finlands-school-success/250564/</a></p>

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				<title>David Ing posted an update in the group Systemicists: In school, losing cursive writing and long division seems [&#8230;]</title>
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<p>&#062;WHAT’S IN:  iPad therapy [....]  Twitter assignments [....]  Smartboard MacGyvers [....]<br />
&#062;WHAT’S OUT:  Cursive writing [....]  Long division [....]  Computer labs  [....]  </p>
<p>The print edition also included WHAT'S ODD: Wikipedia U. [...]  Robot Teachers [....] </p>
<p>Main article at "iPads are in, cursive is out (and other education trends)" Tamara Baluja &#124; Nov. 30 &#124; Globe and Mail at <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/primary-to-secondary/ipads-are-in-cursive-is-out-and-other-education-trends/article2254353/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/primary-to-secondary/ipads-are-in-cursive-is-out-and-other-education-trends/article2254353/</a> .  </p>
<p>Poll on Wikipedia Education Program at "Vote: Are Wikipedia articles an education hit or miss?" at <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/vote-are-robot-teachers-an-education-hit-or-miss/article2253253/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/vote-are-robot-teachers-an-education-hit-or-miss/article2253253/</a> .  </p>
<p>Poll on Robot Teachers at "Vote: Are robot teachers an education hit or miss?" at <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/vote-are-robot-teachers-an-education-hit-or-miss/article2253253/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/education/vote-are-robot-teachers-an-education-hit-or-miss/article2253253/</a> .  </p>
<p>More on Wikipedia Education Program at <a href="http://blog.wikimedia.org/tag/wikipedia-education-program/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wikimedia.org/tag/wikipedia-education-program/</a> .</p>

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				<title>David Ing posted an update in the group Systemicists: "Systems Thinking in a Bar" blog post leads to [&#8230;]</title>
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					<p><a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/daviding/" title="David Ing" rel="nofollow">David Ing</a> posted an update in the group <a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/groups/systemicists/" rel="nofollow">Systemicists</a>: "Systems Thinking in a Bar" blog post leads to @jurgenappelo "Complexity Thinking or Systems Thinking ++" breezy 191-slide presentation.  References to Russell Ackoff,  Dave Snowden, Ralph Stacey, Donella Meadows, Peter Senge, Michael C. Jackson.  </p>
<p>Blog post at <a href="http://www.noop.nl/2011/11/systems-thinking-in-a-bar.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.noop.nl/2011/11/systems-thinking-in-a-bar.html</a> , slides at <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/jurgenappelo/complexity-thinking" rel="nofollow">http://www.slideshare.net/jurgenappelo/complexity-thinking</a> .  Via <a href='http://syscoi.com/commons/members/ironick/' rel="nofollow">@ironick</a> at <a href="https://plus.google.com/117735783041226205402/posts/L7McywG9o2c" rel="nofollow">https://plus.google.com/117735783041226205402/posts/L7McywG9o2c</a></p>

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				<title>David Ing posted an update in the group Systemicists: Obliquity: those who succeed the most are those who take the [&#8230;]</title>
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					<p><a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/daviding/" title="David Ing" rel="nofollow">David Ing</a> posted an update in the group <a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/groups/systemicists/" rel="nofollow">Systemicists</a>: Obliquity: those who succeed the most are those who take the oblique path, says John Kay.<br />
&#062; [In] John Kay’s Obliquity ... The veteran Oxford University economist carefully examines the pathways that people and organizations follow to success, and finds, over and over, that those who succeed the most are those who take the oblique path. “If you want to go in one direction,” he writes, “the best route may involve going in another.”<br />
&#062; The companies that make the largest profits are not the ones that have profit maximization as their main goal, but rather those that try to do something well. The people who have the most wealth are not those who set out to become wealthy, but often those who have avoided money-making opportunities. The people found to be most happy are not those who have pursued happiness, but those who have struggled against challenges.  </p>
<p>This reference was surfaced, with a comparison of styles by William Hague and John Baird, at "The direct approach isn’t always most effective" &#124; Doug Saunders &#124; Nov. 26, 2011 &#124; Globe and Mail at <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/the-direct-approach-isnt-always-most-effective/article2249830/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/the-direct-approach-isnt-always-most-effective/article2249830/</a> </p>
<p>The British economist John Kay can be found at <a href="http://www.johnkay.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnkay.com/</a></p>

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				<title>David Ing posted an update in the group Systemicists: Beyond the paleo diet, six elements of the Paleolithic [&#8230;]</title>
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					<p><a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/daviding/" title="David Ing" rel="nofollow">David Ing</a> posted an update in the group <a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/groups/systemicists/" rel="nofollow">Systemicists</a>: Beyond the paleo diet, six elements of the Paleolithic lifestyle (Pedro Carrera-Bastos)<br />
&#062; DON’T JUST EAT IT – LIVE IT<br />
Here are six key elements of the Paleolithic lifestyle, according to Pedro Carrera-Bastos, a Swedish health researcher specializing in the effects of “ancestral” diets, and his colleagues.<br />
&#062; 1. SUNSHINE<br />
Getting enough vitamin D is crucial to bone health, and may also play a role in preventing cardiovascular disease and some cancers. [....]<br />
&#062; 2. SLEEP<br />
Go to sleep when it’s dark, get up when it’s light.  [....]<br />
&#062; 3. NO POLLUTION<br />
An obvious one – but easier said than done in the modern world.<br />
&#062; 4. ACUTE STRESS<br />
The typical hunter-gatherer life punctuated long periods of low stress with short bouts of acute stress that triggered the fight-or-flight response. In contrast, modern office workers often show signs of chronically elevated stress, which can have consequences such as elevated blood pressure and a weakened immune system.<br />
&#062; 5. PHYSICAL ACTIVITY<br />
Sure, paleo folks got more exercise than we do. But what kind?  [....]<br />
&#062; 6. FRESH, UNPROCESSED FOOD<br />
... modern hunter-gatherers typically get only 35 per cent of their calories from meat, with the rest derived from plants. </p>
<p>The infographic is unfortunately missing in the paper edition, "The Paleo Lifestyle: Should You Go Caveman?" &#124; Alex Hutchinson &#124; Nov. 21, 2011 &#124; Globe and Mail at <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/new-health/health-nutrition/nutrition-features/is-the-caveman-lifestyle-a-healthy-choice/article2241453/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/new-health/health-nutrition/nutrition-features/is-the-caveman-lifestyle-a-healthy-choice/article2241453/</a> .  One of the six diagrams by Trish McAlaster (on stress) appears at <a href="http://sweatscience.com/paleo-the-pace-of-evolution-and-chronic-stress/" rel="nofollow">http://sweatscience.com/paleo-the-pace-of-evolution-and-chronic-stress/</a></p>

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				<title>David Ing posted an update in the group Systemicists: The magic of diasporas: Immigrant networks are a rare bright [&#8230;]</title>
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					<p><a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/members/daviding/" title="David Ing" rel="nofollow">David Ing</a> posted an update in the group <a href="http://syscoi.com/commons/groups/systemicists/" rel="nofollow">Systemicists</a>: The magic of diasporas: Immigrant networks are a rare bright spark in the world economy. Rich countries should welcome them.<br />
&#062; Diaspora networks—of Huguenots, Scots, Jews and many others—have always been a potent economic force, but the cheapness and ease of modern travel has made them larger and more numerous than ever before. There are now 215m first-generation migrants around the world: that’s 3% of the world’s population. If they were a nation, it would be a little larger than Brazil. There are more Chinese people living outside China than there are French people in France. Some 22m Indians are scattered all over the globe. Small concentrations of ethnic and linguistic groups have always been found in surprising places—Lebanese in west Africa, Japanese in Brazil and Welsh in Patagonia, for instance—but they have been joined by newer ones, such as west Africans in southern China.<br />
&#062; These networks of kinship and language make it easier to do business across borders (see article). They speed the flow of information ...<br />
&#062; Diasporas also help spread ideas. [....]<br />
&#062; Diasporas spread money, too.  [...]</p>
<p>See "The magic of diasporas" &#124; Nov. 19, 2011 &#124; The Economist at <a href="http://www.economist.com/node/21538742" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/node/21538742</a></p>

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				<title>David Ing posted an update in the group Systemicists: Nice guys can finish first: Social networks aid cooperation, [&#8230;]</title>
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<p>&#062;... in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), the research is among the first studies to examine social interaction as a fluid, ever-changing process. Previous studies of complex social networks largely used static snapshots of groups to examine how members were or were not connected. [....]</p>
<p>&#062; What this is showing is that a key aspect of real-world social networks is the dynamic component. The point of this paper is to say that those networks are always shifting, and they’re not shifting in random ways. [....]</p>
<p>&#062;The findings, Rand said, showed that players re-wired their social networks in intriguing ways that helped both themselves and the group they were in. They were more willing to make new connections or maintain existing connections with those who acted generously, and break connections with those who behaved selfishly.</p>
<p>&#062; “Because people have control over who they are interacting with, people are more likely to form connections with people who are cooperative, and much more likely to break those links with people who are not,” Rand said. “Basically, what it boils down to is that you’d better be a nice guy, or else you’re going to get cut off.”</p>
<p>See "Nice guys can finish first" &#124; Peter Ruell &#124; Nov. 14, 2011 &#124; Harvard Science at <a href="http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2011/11/social-networks/" rel="nofollow">http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2011/11/social-networks/</a></p>

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